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Name: Cesar Torres
July 25, 2005
By Addi Batica
In a message dated 7/22/05 1:56:08 PM,
Mano Professor –
I got your text message.
Samar is in a dangerous situation, so for now, forget about the
Bayanihan Road Project in Villa, forget San Jose de Buan and other
livelihood project ideas if the military is going to adopt a "scorched
earth" policy in
Samar. Pity the poor barrio folks who'll be forced to evacuate to the
población. But in Basey, Samar, the población is already crowded there just
isn't enough room, so where do we put the evacuees? For one, the arrivals
represent only a fraction of the barrio folks. We're talking about a lot of
people to feed and shelter.
This is all-out war, and what we're seeing is the reverse of what went on
during World War II, when people evacuated to the countryside because it was
safer there, even if the countryside was guerrilla territory. This is a
different war, because even people evacuate to the town centers, there are
no guarantees they'll be safe. In case we have forgotten, death squads roam
freely in Samar and
Leyte. If people keep leaving the barrios, then the only people left would
be the AFP and the NPA, who will turn the abandoned barrios and the
mountains into their battlefields. Good if they'd just simply shoot it out
among themselves, without involving civilian casualties. But that's highly
unlikely - both sides will still have to "sacrifice" civilian lives.
The military takeover scenario is highly likely, as the civilian
leadership is not only weak and incompetent, but discredited. And you know
what? For all the AFP's pronouncements of "neutrality", they have to have a
blueprint for an eventual takeover, when the going gets rough. For one,
they have the manpower and firepower; for another, given Bushie's position
that the Philippines is the "Second Front in the War on Terror" - the US
would most likely support a military regime, even if Bushie and Condi would
say that they recognize a junta "with misgivings".
Philippines has never had to experience military rule through and through
(not a civilian-military partnership like Macoy's brand of dictatorship),
and if a military takeover is to happen - it's going to be our first
experience. We haven't experienced what Latin America had to experience, so
we are going to taste it now. It's an ironic historical process - while the
trend in Latin America is go back to elected government and renounce coups,
it seems the Philippines is trying to be in the same spot Latin America was,
from the 1930's to the 1970's. Is this an indication of "better late than
never" (in terms of toying with military dictatorships)? So we haven't
experienced caudillismo a la Latina Americana, so we'll try it now - in the
new millennium. If that's not backward thinking, I don't know what is. At
the same time, I don't believe a military takeover can solve the problem of
insurgency. What we'll see is a long drawn-out war between two opposing
forces, with both sides using violence and terror to win adherents to their
cause. What we'll be seeing is a long period of instability.
There is one thing we have to remember about the Tupamaros: as ruthless
as they were, they were not exactly hardline ideologues; they considered
themselves closer to Marx than Lenin. The NDF/NPA subscribe to a different
revolutionary orientation and have a different view of the world. Besides,
- as early as 1971, the Tupamaros had already been beat by the military.
They had already been weakened, both as a political and military force. Of
course, this fact did not stop the generals from using the Tupamaros as a
good excuse for taking over the government and establishing a "Reign of
Terror" – from 1973-1984.
In 1989, the Tupamaros - already weakened both politically and militarily
- had their backs to the wall with only two choices: regroup and resume the
armed struggle, or regroup strictly as a political party and join Frente
Amplio. Being exceptionally pragmatic Marxists, they opted for participation
in the Frente. But the NDF and NPA's are not Tupamaros. That's the big
The other thing I can't seem to shake off my mind is this: even a
military junta, and even a repressive one at that - would likely win the
support of the general population as long as it can bring a semblance of
stability to the entire country. It could well be the bitter pill all of us
would have to swallow. But at the same time, how many lives would be
sacrificed in case of a military takeover? Remember, you have been raising
the specter of Suharto's all-out war on the PKI (Partai Komunis
Indonesia). Such a scenario
is still possible.
The CPP is not exactly as big as the PKI, perhaps the only difference is
the PKI didn't have an NPA. But get this, Professor - if the NPA could not
overthrow Macoy when it had 36,000 armed regulars plus 200,000 "reserves"
(farmers by day, guerrillas by night), and a mass base of 1 million+, how do
they expect to take over now, with only 10,000 armed regulars, fewer
"reserves", a reduced mass base, plus – a split within the movement
(re-affirm and reject)?
But of course, like you - I dread the prospect of Khmer Rouge-like
purges, mountains of corpses, and rivers of blood. Honestly, I dread the
ADDI BATICA, SHARED WITH BAYAN MUNA
I don't know if you are going to
share the essay of Mr. Adelbert Batica above with the groups associated with
Jose Maria Sison, the National Democratic Front, the Communist Party of the
Philippines, the New People's Army, Bayan Muna, etc. etc.
But we will post this in SamarNews.com. Bahala na kung basahin ng mga
Mandirigma na pinaghahunting ng mga mamumugot ulo sa
Samar. Basically, iyong
essay ni Mr. Batica is also in response to Mr. Elmer Ordonez's column which
you kindly shared with us.
I hate to say this, pero mukhang napaka-naive naman ni Mr. Elmer Ordonez
dito sa column na finorward mo. Pati na rin iyong iba, naive na rin seguro.
I am not saying that you are one of them. After all you are the Most
Outstanding UP Alumnus of the
College of Engineering.
Unless the others are, what we in Samar would say, "nagpapakamikoymikoy",
pretending to be ignorant.
Porque wala ng "Cold War", so wala na dapat "Red Bogey". Those days when
America et al on the right hand, and the
USSR and China, et al on the
left hand, gustong gunawin ang mundo.
Sumimplang na iyong
USSR at iyong mga komunista
kuno at iyong kanilang lipunan sa
Eastern Europe. China
is governed by a Communist Party but has a capitalist economy, and is
developing economically at a dizzying pace na natatakot na tuloy sina
Rumsfeld. The Sandinistas in Nicaragua were beaten in the polls.
And the deadly urban guerillas, the Tupamaros laid down their arms to
join "Frente Amplio" which is now in control of
Uruguay, from the
Presidency, to the Senate to the Assembly. The "Frente Amplio" movement is
like tsunamis in Latin America.
Netherlands, hindi naman nila kailangan mamasahe or magtinda ng maraming
bakya para tingnan kung ano itong "Frente Amplio". Hiram na lang ng
computer sa public library. I am sure they know how to operate a computer.
Despite the "radical" changes on the "left" side of the Cold War,
nandiyan pa rin si Joma et al, and their unswerving belief in the
"unchanging verity of the armed struggle, of the protracted war", of the
Maoist-Jomaist rebellion in the Philippines. Iyong mga kamag-anak ko at mga
kaibigan, hinahunting na ni Palparan who relishes in his name as "Berdugo"
ng Samar. Sana hindi itorture.
Barilin na lang sa dibdib o sa noo.
Para mabilis iyong kamatayan.
And then, kasi iyong mga naka-uniforme na supportado ng mga kaibigan ni
Anita are supposedly morally better than the guerillas, dapat tulungan na
ilibing iyong mga kanilang pinapatay.
Mon, frankly, between now and the time when that President with a
mellifluous voice will deliver her pakulo, that is how many hours from now,
some of us are afraid that the military will do a Suharto when some three
million Indonesians, mostly members of PKI were hunted and killed.
This Gen. Jovito Palparan who is playing target practice in Samar with
the believers in Jose Maria Sison and the "Red Bogey" and his commanding
officers, and other human beings with uniform, would like to spit at the
eyeballs of the so-called civilians in authority, especially in Western
Samar seguro. Kasi mga nincomcoop daw at mga kawatan. Of course, seguro
posible din na gusto nilang kilawin si Carlos Garcia iyong heneral na
maraming dolyar at maraming bahay sa
America. I don't know.
Sigue Mon. As I write this, thousands of Samarnons have descended on the
historic town of Basey,
near Tacloban. They are escaping from the scorched earth war games of the
uniformed Filipinos who are supposed to protect them.
Iyong isang tatay pala in
Samar was tortured in front of his family and children and the
barrio folks. Tinali, parang baboy. Hindi pa makita kung nasaan ang katawan. Seguro,
kinain ng mga nakauniforme.
Mon, pakisabi sa kanila, na mayroon din nag-abuloy para sa familya ng mga
namatay sa Jiabong,
Samar, including that 8-year old boy. We have also more than
P10,000 na ibibigay sa mga nag-evacuate sa bayan ng Basey. Si Atty. Lira,
the Most Outstanding Sigma Rhoan, nag-abuloy.
Pakisabi kina Jose Ma. Sison na humingi ng tulong sa
China para sa pagkain ng mga
tagabundok na sa bayan ng Basey in
Samar. There are
2,000 people who have descended on the poblacion.
Padayon Mon, hangtud sa yubyunganan, in the word of the peaceful people
from Romblon. Kasi walang naniwala kay Palparan doon at kay Jose Maria
In a message dated 7/23/05
I am sure they have a copy of the article by Batica. Based on tsismis by
politicos who go to
the staff there read everything, pro or contra, and they get their items as
soon as they get printed here or post online.
"Most Outstanding UP Alumnus of the College of Engineering."
RESPONSE: Ngee! Hindi
ako yan. Baka si Apo Satur Respicio pa dahil siya ang may most outstanding
met engineer award given by UPAE. Ako, just an ordinary alumnus of the
college kaya nga no award come my way.
"Porque wala ng 'Cold War', so wala na dapat 'Red Bogey'. Those days when
America et al on the right hand, and the USSR and China, et al on the left
hand, gustong gunawin ang mundo."
argument goes this way: Everybody is saying that there is no more communist
country. No more is the Soviet Union or Red China. It is also said that Joma
et al are insignificant and can be argued. Therefore, it follows that there
cannot be a Red Bogey anymore because there are no more communists.
SAID: "Pakisabi sa Netherlands, hindi naman nila kailangan mamasahe
or magtinda ng maraming bakya para tingnan kung ano itong 'Frente Amplio'.
Hiram na lang ng computer sa public library sa Netherlands. I am sure they
know how to operate a computer."
RESPONSE: As I said
earlier they know how to use their PCs and search the Internet. In fact, if
we are to believe the news reports in 1987, the Utrecht people were already
using modems to get news and data from the Philippines on the hour that they
know more about what are happening here than most of us who are already
"This Gen. Jovito Palparan who is playing
target practice in
Samar with the believers in Jose Maria Sison and the
'Red Bogey' and his commanding officers, and other human beings with
uniform, would like to spit at the eyeballs of the so-called civilians in
authority, especially in
Western Samar seguro. Kasi mga nincomcoop daw at mga
kawatan. Of course, seguro posible din na gusto nilang kilawin si Carlos
Garcia iyong heneral na maraming dolyar at maraming bahay sa
RESPONSE: Going by
past military operations, it will probably go this way: those barangays are
supposed to be under NPA control for many years and the people have adopted
to the NPA government established there. Now, comes the military who conduct
an operation to flush out the NPAs and they do not know if the barrio folks
themselves are NPA members or supporters or true believes.
RESPONSE: But the
military cannot stay there for months or years, so eventually they will
leave. When they leave, the NPAs -- especially if they are also at the same
time the resident barrio folks there – will reestablish their own government
and continue after the disruption. After all they have planted the seeds of
a new idea of people governing themselves and they have found a fertile soil
in the people long neglected by the government mainly because no government
bureaucrat would like to live with the people there year in and year out.
military cannot forever stay in one place to guard it so this scene will be
replicated in other barrrios, ad infinitum.
"Mon, pakisabi sa kanila, na mayroon din nag-abuloy
para sa familya ng mga namatay sa Jiabong,
including that 8-year old boy. We have also more than P10,000 na ibibigay
sa mga nag-evacuate sa bayan ng Basey. Si Atty. Lira, the Most Outstanding
Sigma Rhoan, nag-abuloy, at iyong kapareho kong alumni sa UP College of
Public Administration, si Maria Paz Susan Aclo-Arce."
RESPONSE: Except for
the press releases that I receive as a member of the online media, I really
do not have links to them. But the press releases have phone numbers and
addresses so anybody who wants to lend some assistance can try those numbers
"Pakisabi kina Jose Ma. Sison na humingi ng
para sa pagkain ng mga tagabundok na sa bayan ng Basey in
There are 2,000 people who have descended on the poblacion."
RESPONSE: Wala naman
tayo sa posisyon para mag-utos kina Joma. Apart from that, I think they know
what they ought to do in circumstances like the one mentioned in the HR
you can directly write to him. His email address is in one of the websites
he maintains. One on one link is much better than having to course it
through a third person, di ba?
I hope you don't mind if I share your thoughts with others.
I keep on harping about
China because I don't
believe that China's protracted war should continue to guide Joma and his
group. When MTT and Chou En Lai and Chu Teh and the PLA were in the midst
of their armed struggle, they were fighting an incompetent, weak
Kuomintang. They were fighting the Japanese who had no business being in
The first meeting of the Chinese Communist Party was held in
Shanghai in 1921. Twenty
eight years later,
had fallen into the hands of the CPP, a period of 28 years. Joma started
lambasting Dodong Nemenzo, Merlin Magallona, and the Lavas, and Luis Taruc,
etc., 36 years ago. And then nuong panahon ng No. 1 UP alumnus, tingin ay
national democracy na sa Pilipinas kasi there were 36,000 armed NPA
partisans, etc. Anong nangyari?
Ngayon, ano ba ang kalayagan sa mundo, at lalo na sa Pilipinas?
Komunista ba ang Tsina? Do they care about the workingmen of all
nations? Do they still sing the International in Mandarin or
Fukien or whatever? Do they
care about the Filipinos? Is this the reason why they may have diplomatic
relations with the bakya makers in the Netherlands?
Aywan ko how you people see the situation there. Sigue mass action ng
mass action. Sama sama iyong iba ibang kulay, parang rainbow coalition. Sa
Samar ang balita ko, naghakot iyong Governador na hindi taga
Samar at may kaso sa
Ombudsman for a possible plunder, at sobrang incompetent, ng magmamartsa to
support GMA. Pero palangga kasi ng aking mga pinsan sa Mt. Huraw, kahit
nasusuka si Palparan, ayan nandiyan pa itong Governador na hindi taga Samar,
may fuwersa kasi. At mga gunggong iyong taga
Samar who voted
for her, pati mga kamag-anak ko.
Personally, okay ako diyan sa Revolutionary Council -- as if it matters
what I think or what we think -- o kung ano mang iyong mga council na
pinaga-abalahan niyo. Subalit tingin ko, napa ka naďve naman. It is
tantamount to declaring a revolutionary situation where power grows out of
the barrel of the sub-machinegun and the Armalite or the Uzi or the Fal
becomes the ultimate decision maker. Hindi si Davide.
Katulad ng ginawa ng No. 1 UP alumnus. Remember? "O sigue, pipiyak kayo? Lahat
ng military na sa akin. Mga kabalen pa. At iyong mga taga UP, brain trust
ko. Sigue, gusto niyo ng patayan? Ayaw niyo ng Democratic Revolution at New
Society? Magpakamatay kayo!"
Walang pumiyok sa
Luzon. Lipat iyong i-ilan ilan na NPA from Tarlac, puntang
Samar. May lull muna. Then
encounter, encounter sa
Samar, ambush ambush. Abuso iyong militar. Daming taga
Samar na ginago pati si Dr.
Bobby de la Paz na tumutulong lang sa mga bunihon at mabaho ang kilikili na
taga Samar, pinatay ng militar! Sayang na buhay... A military detachment in
Eastern Samar in Borongan was even attacked. Then what?
In the situation now, dadanak muna ang dugo bago mangyari iyong
Revolutionary Council. Talaga bang papayagan kayo ng mga militar na magbuo
ng Revolutionary Council where you will be bypassing them, the military and
their handlers in kung saan man iyon (sa America?), the TRAPOS or iyong mga
panpunas ng dumi also known as toilet paper?
Iyong sinasabi mo about the more than 2,000 Samarnons from the mountains
who have fled to the poblacion of Addi Batica's Basey. Okay, iyong sinasabi
mo na iyong mga Ilocano, mga Bicolano, mga Muslims na mga sundalo na
naghahanting sa mga NPA sa kabundokan ng Samar, hindi iyon magtatayo ng
settlement or magaasawa ng dilag na Samarena. Gagahasain seguro. Aanakan.
Aalis din sila, babalik sa Catbalogan, or kung saan man ang kanilang mga
detachment or mamamatay kung magaling iyong kay Joma or Ka Roger Rosal mga
military strategists at ambushers.
But can you just imagine the impact of 2,000 people who are in Basey's
poblacion Mon? Ako kahit nandito, hindi naman impaired iyong imagination ko.
What happens to their farms? Mga manok, mga baboy? Gagawin fried chicken
at lechon ng mga alipores ni Palparan? Iyong pagpakain nalang doon sa kanila
in the town. Iyong pag jinggle, iyong pag-evac.
Mayroon kaming project sa San Jose de Buan, interior ng Samar. The
military and the NPA are playing hide and seek there. Ngayon, wala na
Iyong Bayanihan Road Repair Project sa Villareal, Samar, na pinagmamalaki
namin sa mundo, we were doing the road project on our own, walang paki-alam
iyong World Bank, the Asian Development Bank, at USAID. We were in effect
saying, "Shit lang kayong mga gago na may kapangyarihan na ginago niyo iyong
taga Samar na gago rin ang pag-i-isip dahll sa kanilang mga mapagsamantalang
'Ward Leaders'. Gagawin namin ito. Hindi kami magbibigay ng mananakaw niyo.”
Wala ng notisya Mon, kasi iyong Mayor ay officer ng Bayan Muna, talagang
takot na yayari-in siya. At kami rin, sa halip na tuloy iyong panghihingi
para sa tulong sa Bayanihan Road Repair Project sa Villareal, iyong aming
oras napupunta dito sa pag-a-ala-ala kung paano kami tutulong sa mga sugatan,
sa mga gutom, sa pag-palibing sa mga mamamatay dahil sa "Kagiosan" and the
militarization in Samar. Itong mga relihiyoso naman, hanggang Rosaryo lang
Ang tsismis na nahahagip ko tungkol sa heneral sa Eastern Visayas at
iyong kanyang boss ay wala na iyong mga peace peace negotiation sa Norway.
Ubusan na. Ito na rin ang iniisip nina Ermita at si Gloria at saka dito,
like Condo Mais seguro.
Anyway, Mon, nanghihingi na ako ng mga damit, at pera para ibili ng bulak,
ng gamot, cortal, at iodine, ng crutches, etc. Sana hindi nakawin sa
Customs nuong mga alipores ng mga masasamang uri.
Sana iyong mga bata na simple ang pagiisip at buong katapatan na
naniniwala sa inyo ay hindi gamitin ng mga nakauniforme para sila ang
hirangin na rulers ng 79 million Filipinos. Dati 87 million iyong ginagamit
kong figure ng Philipine population. I am pretty sure na pag ang
"Praetorian Guards" and sasaludohan ninyo diyan araw araw, hindi na uuwi
iyong 8 million na mga Flips na naghihirap sa labas ng bayan kong sawi.
Mag Frente Amplio na lang kayo Mon. Uma-alingaw-ngaw ang sabi ni Gen
Ermita about Joma's decision not to negotiate with the incompetent leaders
of the Government.
And it is possible that the military is thinking like this: "Sigue.
Tingnan natin kung ano ang kaya niyo. Suportado kayo ng lumpen at mga
inocente? Madaling pagbabarilin iyong mga iyan. Lalo na pagsamahan ng pugot
ulo. Parang mga aso na hindi na kakahol iyan. Pilipino Pilipino...Wala iyan. Dahas
at fuersa ang importante. Kahit pare-pareho kaming mga pangit. And the CBCP
at iyong Santo Papa sa Roma and the UCCP sa America and God will not help
Padayon Mon, hangtud ha lubnganan!
REJOINDER BY MON RAMIREZ
"The first meeting of the Chinese Communist Party was held
in 1921. Twenty eight years later, China had fallen into the hands of the
CPP, a period of 28 years. Joma started lambasting Dodong Nemenzo, Merlin
Magallona, and the Lavas, and Luis Taruc, etc., 36 years ago. And then nuong
panahon ng No. 1 UP alumnus, tingin ay national democracy na sa Pilipinas
kasi there were 36,000 armed NPA partisans, etc. Anong nangyari?"
RESPONSE: Iba't ibang
bansa, iba't ibang diskarte. Yong mga CPs nga sa Malaya at Indonesia na
nauna pa sa CPP ay wala na, well at least as far as I can read in the
RESPONSE: As for the
36,000 armed NPA partisan, the biggest number than the AFP said it was is
25,000. Even that was bloated since later, in a congressional hearing, it
was admitted that probably the highest number could only be 10,000. Malaki,
maliit ang bilang ng NPA, depende sa sitwasyon. Usually, malaki ang figure
na binibigay kapag nanghihingi ng pondo ang AFP sa Congress; maliit, kapag
naglilista sila ng achievements for the year.
"Komunista ba ang Tsina? Do they care about the workingmen
of all nations? Do they still sing the International in Mandarin or Fukien
or whatever? Do they care about the Filipinos? Is this the reason why they
may have diplomatic relations with the bakya makers in the Netherlands?
Aywan ko how you people see the situation there. Sigue mass action ng mass
action. Sama sama iyong iba ibang kulay, parang rainbow coalition. Sa Samar
ang balita ko, naghakot iyong Governador na hindi taga Samar para magmartsa
to support Gloria."
RESPONSE: Hindi naman
ibig sabihin na kapag mass action ka ng mass action ay komunista ka na. Sa
US nga, during the civil rights movement nina MLK panay ang mass actions.
Ganoon din noong panahong ng opposition to the Vietnam wear. Wala naman
patent ang mga komunista sa mass actions. Anybody or group can avail of mass
actions and protests demonstrations for redress of their grievances.
RESPONSE: Kung hindi
ka lalabas ng kalye ang pwedeng mong gawin ay sumulat ng reklamo mo sa
president o kongresor, ilagay sa sobre, lagyan ng stamp, ipadala at
maghintay ng sagot, kung sasagutin ka.
RESPONSE: Pwede ring
pumunta ka sa Internet cafe, sumulat ng email kay
email@example.com, ibuhuos ang reklamao mo,
con todo ebidensiya kung meron, at maghintay kung sasagutin ka.
RESPONSE: Or, pwede
ring tumahimik ka na lang, at tanggapin na talagang ganyan lang talaga ang
buhay. Parang si San Jose noon, sa kantang The Cherry Tree carol kinanta ni
Joan Baez, na ginawang tula naman ni Pete Lacaba. Nagrereklamo siya na:
hindi ko pa naman inaano, pero buntis na ang Mrs ko. Sagot sa kanya ng
kaibigan niya: talagang ganyan ang maliit, wala laban sa langit.
"Iyong sinasabi mo about the more than 2,000 Samarnons from
the mountains who have fled to the poblacion of Addi Batica's Basey."
RAMIREZ’S RESPONSE As you can read in my email, I was not the one who
said that 2,000 Samarnons fled from their homes. That was taken from an
Inquirer article. Where the Inquirer reporter got it, I do not know.
"Anyway, Mon, nanghihingi na ako ng mga damit, at pera para
ibili ng bulak, ng gamot, cortal, at iodine, ng crutches, etc. Sana hindi
nakawin sa Customs nuong mga alipores ng mga masasamang uri."
RAMIREZ’S RESPONSE: Yan na nga ang isang pwedeng gawin natin dahil
hindi naman mga heneral o mga politiko na pwedeng magbaba ng mga utos sa
kanila. Tayo lang naman ay nagiistambayan sa botomo at kung may maitutulong
siempre tutulong kung kaya.
In a message dated 7/23/05
Mano Profesór –
While we're busy with our "banat" and never-ending debates with other
folks, what's going to happen to our ideas for livelihood projects? With
this never-ending war, what's going to happen to our programs for
alleviating poverty in Samar? It appears we will just have to "aguants" for
a while...and wait for better times? Agidaw, ano - nga perestihon! San-o pa
man it Samar igkikita hin kalinaw ngan kamurayaw...kon magbusag na it uwak?
Tungod kay sige it aton banat hit mga "protagonists", bangin lugod hi
kita nga duha it una pag ihawon hini. Poor us, we don't have an armed group
to protect us. The only weapon we have is a life of integrity. But of
course, most folks would label us either as fools or old-fashioned by
hammering on "integrity". But so be it. At least our consciences are still
clear – we haven't robbed, cheated, raped, tortured, or killed anybody.
That, for me, is already a major accomplishment.